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OPRAH: Were you raped by someone you knew? And then all of a sudden, I started to experience this incredible, intense pain throughout my entire body that mimicked, actually, the illness that I felt after I was raped. I just all of a sudden became a star and was traveling the world going from hotel room to garage to limo to stage. I did not have a doctor help me through it. So I was raped repeatedly when I was 19 years old. I could object my book and read it, but I’ll just tell you. LADY GAGA: Well, I’ve shared this with you, and I will share it again, very vulnerably with all of you. I had no idea the impact that trauma has on your mental health. And I didn’t know, until I started this school, because I had this idea that I’m gonna create this school and everybody’s gonna come and they’re gonna get an education and they’re gonna go out in the world and everything’s gonna be fabulous. What does that mean for you? Because as I was sharing with you on the phone, I have a girls’ school with girls who have come from traumatic backgrounds. OPRAH: So twice you’ve said you have mental health issues. It should be treated as a medical condition. And mental health is a medical condition. But what’s interesting about it is that I’ve found through neuropsych research and my relationship with my doctors that fibromyalgia can be treated through mental health therapy. And even sitting here with you today, I’m in head-to-toe pain. Now, someone that might be watching this that has it might be saying, don’t tell me that my fibromyalgia is in my head because my whole body hurts. So fibromyalgia is essentially a chronic pain condition that makes your body hurt through your brain. LADY GAGA: That is a very big question, Oprah. OPRAH: What does that mean, fibromyalgia? What does that mean? LADY GAGA: Well, it’s not a huge secret, but some of you might not know in the audience tonight or who’s watching, but I struggle with mental health issues. And is that because of the hard work? Or is that because of the actual physical mental pain that you had to go through up until that moment to get it? OPRAH: So someone had asked you what do you see when you look at that Oscar, and you say you see a lot of pain. And one of those things that I deeply care about is mental health. And number two, I think the most shocking thing that I could possibly do is be completely vulnerable and honest with you about my life, how-what I’ve been through, the struggles that I’ve seen that I have also been a part of, and share that with the world so that I can help other people who are suffering. And it’s changed since then because, number one, it’s no longer shocking to have pink hair. You know? But the truth is that that was part of my art form was, how do I get people to see and watch and listen and become engaged with me on a personal level? Even though it felt quite superficial I think for a lot of people.

I think it was something that I enjoyed to bemuse people so they would listen to the music and there was sort of a state of confusion of who is this woman? I don’t really-I’m, like-it’s kind of like, you know, watching a train wreck. I don’t know what happened but it sort of-but that’s what happens when you have a vision for yourself, you can be here, right? And then you have your vision. OPRAH: And so you created this sort of alter person, Gaga. And I wanted to share my story and my vision of the world with the world. I wanted to be filled with compassion for others. I wanted to be filled with self-compassion. It was a vision for the me that I wanted to be. And it was in creating Gaga, that I was able to create a superhero for myself. And it was time, once I dropped out of college, I will admit-stay in school-but I dropped out of college because I was, like, I have to pursue my dreams as a musician. Like why do you want to be a singer? Why do you want to be a musician? Why do you want to be an actress? And I felt so secluded and isolated.

LADY GAGA: Well, you know, at first when I was younger, I went through a lot of struggles in high school. OPRAH: I want to know when you got clarity for yourself about the vision of creating Gaga.

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